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I have a 98 year old friend, Brit Pensioner and while I have never asked him directly, I understand his weekly pension is still fixed at his 65 years of age, back in 1968 of £25.

john
Good job his son and daughter look after him.
 
I will be amazed if the state pension still exists in 34 years time when I get around to retirement age.
 
Good old Express. Reporting this as if it's something new. The DWP site has a full list of countries which continue paying the pension rises and which ones don't.
It all depends on whether the country they move to gives their pensioners living in UK the annual rise. If they don't, then UK pays benefits to their citizens and rely on the other country paying benefits to UK citizens otherwise UK would be paying twice.
All EU countries pay the annual increment and most of them did even before UK joined the EU. US citizens living in UK get an annual update on their pensions therefore UK citizens living in the US get the increase.
Canada does not pay Canadians living in the UK an annual update therefore UK citizens living in Canada don't get the increase.
Apart from the EU countries, Brits going to live in one of the following countries will get an increase because of the reciprocal agreement:
  • Barbados
  • Bermuda
  • Bosnia-Herzegovina
  • Jersey
  • Guernsey
  • the Isle of Man
  • Israel
  • Jamaica
  • Kosovo
  • Macedonia
  • Mauritius
  • Montenegro
  • the Philippines
  • Serbia
  • Turkey
  • USA
 
Received today:-

Dear ICBP Supporter,

Recently we advised you of a change in our PR agency in the U.K.. Part
of this reason was because we felt the need for new ideas and a fresh
approach.

One of the first initiatives is a new website which you can see here
www.endfrozenpensions.org [1]

As a supporter of our campaign to put an end to the UK Government's
unjust position on 'frozen' overseas British pensions, we now need your
help. Working with these new advisers, we have renamed the campaign 'End
Frozen Pensions' and we are about to begin a new huge push to put
pressure on the Government.

To this end we have started a petition on our new website. This is a
petition 'with a difference' as it includes an option to email your
Member of Parliament if you are based in the UK or email the UK Prime
Minister if you are based overseas. Even if you have already signed up
as a supporter of our campaign, PLEASE sign up on this new website too.
The emails generated will encourage Members of Parliament to meet with
campaign representatives or urge the Prime Minister to end this unfair
policy. All you have to do is input your basic details and click 'send'
on a suggested text that we have written. It will take no more than 30
seconds: the same time it takes to brush your teeth or boil a kettle.
The more signatories the greater the impact. The greater the impact, the
greater the pressure on the British government and the more likely we
are to get justice for over 520,000 overseas pensioners.

Finally: please share this petition as far and wide as possible among
family and friends. Share it by Facebook, Twitter, email, smoke signal,
telegraph, letter, word-of-mouth and more. Every extra sign up and email
generated makes our campaign stronger. Every last one. We would really
appreciate you signing it and encouraging as many others to do so as
well. Here is a short message that you can copy and paste to share with
others.

_____________________________________________________
Dear

On my behalf, please sign this petition to help end the UK Government's
unjust, unfair and arbitrary overseas 'frozen' pensions policy. This
policy means that British pensions who live abroad in the majority of
Commonwealth countries do not have their pensions increased in line with
inflation and so their real value falls year-on-year. This is leading
to suffering and poverty. 'Frozen' pensions affect over 520,000 overseas
British pensioners around the world. Please GO TO our website
www.endfrozenpensions.org [2] sign the petition, and use the option to
email your Member of Parliament if you are based in the UK, or email the
UK Prime Minister if you are based overseas. These emails will encourage
Members of Parliament to meet with campaign representatives and urge the
Prime Minister to end this unfair policy. All you have to do is input
your basic details and click 'send' on a suggested text that we have
written. It will take no more than 30 seconds: the same time it takes to
brush your teeth or boil a kettle.

Finally: please share this petition as far and wide as possible among
family and friends. Share it with Facebook, Twitter, email, smoke
signal, telegraph, letter, word-of-mouth and more. Every person who
signs up will make a difference. Every last one. I would really you
signing it and the encouraging as many others to do so as well.

Facebook: End Frozen Pensions Twitter: @pensionjustice Email:
[email protected]

________________________________________________________

The new campaign is also urgently looking for case studies. If you are
happy to be featured on new our website as a case study please send over
a good quality recent photo and 100 words on your frozen pension story
to [email protected]. All published materials that feature case
studies are cleared through them first.

Regards

John J Duffy, Chairman - International Consortium of British Pensioners

Contact & follow us on our social media channels for more campaign
updates:

Facebook: End Frozen Pensions

Twitter: @pensionjustice

Email: [email protected]
 
It's not arbitrary. It depends on if the country you go to live in upgrades its citizens pensions if they live in UK.
Canada doesn't so Brits living in Canada don't get theirs upgraded.
America does so Brits living in America do get theirs upgraded.

Canadians who become resident in UK can get pension credits, tax credits etc. If UK upgraded Brits in Canada and Canadians living in UK then they would be paying twice whilst the home country pays nothing.
(other countries are the same).
 
Nothing new here. Has been like this for years.
It always seemed odd, that a "British" WW2 vet who after retiring went to live in Oz, NZ or Canada didn't get an annual rise, but some-one in Germany did.
Still as others have said, rules is rules and you ain't going to change it.
 
fingers_1661 said:
Received today:-

Dear ICBP Supporter,

Recently we advised you of a change in our PR agency in the U.K.. Part
of this reason was because we felt the need for new ideas and a fresh
approach.

One of the first initiatives is a new website which you can see here
www.endfrozenpensions.org [1]

As a supporter of our campaign to put an end to the UK Government's
unjust position on 'frozen' overseas British pensions, we now need your
help. Working with these new advisers, we have renamed the campaign 'End
Frozen Pensions' and we are about to begin a new huge push to put
pressure on the Government.

To this end we have started a petition on our new website. This is a
petition 'with a difference' as it includes an option to email your
Member of Parliament if you are based in the UK or email the UK Prime
Minister if you are based overseas. Even if you have already signed up
as a supporter of our campaign, PLEASE sign up on this new website too.
The emails generated will encourage Members of Parliament to meet with
campaign representatives or urge the Prime Minister to end this unfair
policy. All you have to do is input your basic details and click 'send'
on a suggested text that we have written. It will take no more than 30
seconds: the same time it takes to brush your teeth or boil a kettle.
The more signatories the greater the impact. The greater the impact, the
greater the pressure on the British government and the more likely we
are to get justice for over 520,000 overseas pensioners.

Finally: please share this petition as far and wide as possible among
family and friends. Share it by Facebook, Twitter, email, smoke signal,
telegraph, letter, word-of-mouth and more. Every extra sign up and email
generated makes our campaign stronger. Every last one. We would really
appreciate you signing it and encouraging as many others to do so as
well. Here is a short message that you can copy and paste to share with
others.

_____________________________________________________
Dear

On my behalf, please sign this petition to help end the UK Government's
unjust, unfair and arbitrary overseas 'frozen' pensions policy. This
policy means that British pensions who live abroad in the majority of
Commonwealth countries do not have their pensions increased in line with
inflation and so their real value falls year-on-year. This is leading
to suffering and poverty. 'Frozen' pensions affect over 520,000 overseas
British pensioners around the world. Please GO TO our website
www.endfrozenpensions.org [2] sign the petition, and use the option to
email your Member of Parliament if you are based in the UK, or email the
UK Prime Minister if you are based overseas. These emails will encourage
Members of Parliament to meet with campaign representatives and urge the
Prime Minister to end this unfair policy. All you have to do is input
your basic details and click 'send' on a suggested text that we have
written. It will take no more than 30 seconds: the same time it takes to
brush your teeth or boil a kettle.

Finally: please share this petition as far and wide as possible among
family and friends. Share it with Facebook, Twitter, email, smoke
signal, telegraph, letter, word-of-mouth and more. Every person who
signs up will make a difference. Every last one. I would really you
signing it and the encouraging as many others to do so as well.

Facebook: End Frozen Pensions Twitter: @pensionjustice Email:
[email protected]

________________________________________________________

The new campaign is also urgently looking for case studies. If you are
happy to be featured on new our website as a case study please send over
a good quality recent photo and 100 words on your frozen pension story
to [email protected]. All published materials that feature case
studies are cleared through them first.

Regards

John J Duffy, Chairman - International Consortium of British Pensioners

Contact & follow us on our social media channels for more campaign
updates:

Facebook: End Frozen Pensions

Twitter: @pensionjustice

Email: [email protected]
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They could shorten to that to "Give us more taxpayers money".
 
stacker1 said:
They could shorten to that to "Give us more taxpayers money".
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It's a lengthy way of saying, "we've paid in all our working lives, we just want back what we've contributed the same as everybody else who paid in is getting."

If we are legally obliged to pay elderly foreign nationals, then perhaps we should be billing their respective governments for the cost.

I also think we should include various other benefit payments in that strategy. For example child benefit. You come from Romania? (Insert country of origin). We're happy to pay you child benefit provided your government reimburses us.
 
rgjbloke said:
If we are legally obliged to pay elderly foreign nationals, then perhaps we should be billing their respective governments for the cost.
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Then the foreign country would send us a return, and almost certainly larger, bill for all the Brits on their land. Even if the bill wasn't larger the admin costs would push up the total bill. The current system is the simplest and therefore cheapest to administer and simply requires you to check the status before you leave the country. You want a full index linked UK pension you stay at home or go where you will get reciprocal payments, it's your chioce.
 
rgjbloke said:
It's a lengthy way of saying, "we've paid in all our working lives, we just want back what we've contributed the same as everybody else who paid in is getting."

If we are legally obliged to pay elderly foreign nationals, then perhaps we should be billing their respective governments for the cost.

I also think we should include various other benefit payments in that strategy. For example child benefit. You come from Romania? (Insert country of origin). We're happy to pay you child benefit provided your government reimburses us.
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Spoken like someone who genuinely believes most people "paid in". Most people take back what they put in, that's why the country runs up so much debt. Child benefit, cost of educating children, work tax credits and all the other bollocks people want.

Lets not forget it was your heroes in the Labour party that let any ****** in.
 

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